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01/11/2005 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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08:02:07 AM Start
08:02:53 AM Office of the Governor, Human Rights Commission
08:48:16 AM Department of Administration, Public Defenders Office
09:38:52 AM Department of Administration, Office of Public Advocacy
10:01:15 AM Adjourn
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Overview
                 ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                     
          HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                              
                     January 11, 2005                                                                                           
                         8:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Paul Seaton, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Jim Elkins                                                                                                       
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW(S):      DEPARTMENT   OF   ADMINISTRATION,   PUBLIC                                                                    
DEFENDERS  OFFICE; DEPARTMENT  OF ADMINISTRATION,  OFFICE OF                                                                    
PUBLIC  ADVOCACY;  OFFICE  OF  THE  GOVERNOR,  HUMAN  RIGHTS                                                                    
COMMISSION                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAULA HALEY, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Human Rights Commission                                                                                                         
Office of the Governor                                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered an overview regarding the                                                                          
Human Rights Commission.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA BRINK, Director                                                                                                         
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Public Defender Agency (PDA)                                                                                                    
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented an  overview regarding  the                                                                    
Public  Defender  Agency;  answered a  question  during  the                                                                    
overview regarding the Office of Public Advocacy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LINDA WILSON, Deputy Director                                                                                                   
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Public Defender Agency (PDA)                                                                                                    
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Answered  a  question   during  the                                                                    
overview of the Public Defender Agency.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA FINK, Public Advocate                                                                                                    
Anchorage Office                                                                                                                
Office of Public Advocacy (OPA)                                                                                                 
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Offered an  overview  regarding  the                                                                    
Office of Public Advocacy.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON called  the meeting  to order  at 8:02:07  AM.                                                                  
Representatives  Elkins,  Gatto,  Lynn, Ramras,  and  Seaton                                                                    
were present at the call  to order.  Representatives Gardner                                                                    
and  Gruenberg  arrived  as the  meeting  was  in  progress.                                                                    
Chair  Seaton   explained  that   since  the   Committee  on                                                                    
Committees had not  yet met and the committees  had not been                                                                    
adopted by the  House, the meeting would not  be an official                                                                    
one, but  would be used as  an overview and a  work session.                                                                    
Chair Seaton  introduced the representatives taking  part as                                                                    
unofficial committee members.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  first order of business was                                                                    
the overview from  the Office of the  Governor, Human Rights                                                                    
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:04:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAULA  HALEY, Executive  Director, Human  Rights Commission,                                                                    
Office  of the  Governor,  spoke about  Alaska's history  of                                                                    
strong anti-discrimination,  and the beginning of  the Human                                                                    
Rights   Commission.     She   noted   that  only   Alabama,                                                                    
Mississippi, and  Arkansas do not  have agencies  to process                                                                    
complaints of  discrimination by their citizens.   Ms. Haley                                                                    
listed types  of discrimination that the  state law protects                                                                    
against:  race,  religion,   color,  national  origin,  age,                                                                    
physical  or  mental   disabilities,  sex,  marital  status,                                                                    
changes in  marital status, pregnancy, and  parenthood.  She                                                                    
noted that while  discrimination is less of  a problem today                                                                    
than it was 40 years ago,  it is still present in the nation                                                                    
and in  Alaska.  Ms.  Haley described the claim  process and                                                                    
emphasized the impartial role of the commission.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:09:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY, in  response to  a question  from Chair  Seaton,                                                                    
noted that approximately 30 percent  of businesses asked are                                                                    
willing  to consider  some sort  of mediation.   Of  that 30                                                                    
percent,  about  80   percent  settle.    If   there  is  no                                                                    
mediation, or if the mediation  process fails, then the case                                                                    
moves to an investigation.   All complaints are confidential                                                                    
unless scheduled  for public hearing, which  only happens if                                                                    
the commission's case fails conciliation.   Ms. Haley stated                                                                    
that if  the complaining party  believes that the  staff was                                                                    
erroneous  in  its conclusion,  that  party  can appeal  the                                                                    
decision to the Alaska Superior Court.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:13:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY  offered  examples   of  cases  involving  racial                                                                    
discrimination   and   sexual   harassment  in   places   of                                                                    
employment,   racial   discrimination    in   housing,   and                                                                    
discrimination  of   developmentally  disabled   people  who                                                                    
needed interpreters during medical appointments.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:19:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALEY  told the committee  that the commission  is asked                                                                    
by  businesses  and   organizations  to  give  presentations                                                                    
regarding  how  to  prevent  and  eliminate  discrimination;                                                                    
however,  because of  the commission's  increasing workload,                                                                    
it has  had to turn  down invitations.  Ms.  Haley addressed                                                                    
the issue of  the caseload backups and the  changes that the                                                                    
commission has had to make.   She noted that in August 1999,                                                                    
the commission eliminated  its backlog, but due  to a recent                                                                    
spiking  of  the  commission's  inventory  and  loss  of  20                                                                    
percent of  its staff, it  will likely take eight  months to                                                                    
meet  the  current caseloads.    Ms.  Haley said  reductions                                                                    
since  fiscal  year 2003  (FY  03)  have  resulted in  a  20                                                                    
percent  loss of  staff, and  additionally, reduced  support                                                                    
from the  Department of Law  has resulted in  increased work                                                                    
and cost to the commission.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:22:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HALEY  addressed   budget,   goals,  and   performance                                                                    
measures.  In response to  a question from Chair Seaton, she                                                                    
noted  that  the mission  of  the  agency  is set  forth  in                                                                    
statute,  while the  measures essentially  have  to do  with                                                                    
"what comes in," "how quickly we  can get it out," and "what                                                                    
the product is."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:28:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY,   in  response  to  a   two-part  question  from                                                                    
Representative  Gatto, mentioned  the  federal Fair  Housing                                                                    
Act and noted that,  regarding accessibility for people with                                                                    
disabilities,  there  are  different  requirements  for  old                                                                    
buildings  and  newly   constructed  buildings.    Regarding                                                                    
parenthood,  she said  Alaska law  does not  address the  "I                                                                    
don't want  to rent  to children"  issue, while  federal law                                                                    
does.   Regarding the  issue of  pets, she  said a  "no pet"                                                                    
rule is  universally allowed, with  one exception,  which is                                                                    
when  a  pet  is  used   for  technical  assistance  to  the                                                                    
individual.    In  response to  a  follow-up  question  from                                                                    
Representative Gatto  regarding a person's need  for a small                                                                    
pet as  a companion animal,  she said the person  would have                                                                    
to have  a medical  reason for  needing that  companion pet,                                                                    
which would be a rare situation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:36:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY, in  response  to  questions from  Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg, said that the commission  keeps a monitoring file                                                                    
open  after a  case  is closed,  to  keep tabs  on  it.   In                                                                    
response   to  a   follow-up  request   from  Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg, she  agreed to find  out if it  would potentially                                                                    
be a violation  of the state Human Rights Act  if people are                                                                    
not able to  vote because they can't  understand the English                                                                    
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS pointed  to  the  2003 annual  report                                                                    
[included  in   the  committee   packet].     Regarding  the                                                                    
successes of  the commission,  he asked  how many  times the                                                                    
commission  has investigated  and  found that  there was  no                                                                    
discrimination.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:42:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY  directed  attention  to the  last  page  of  the                                                                    
report,  which  shows  that 69  percent  of  the  complaints                                                                    
brought to the commission have  resulted in findings of "not                                                                    
substantial evidence."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:44:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked Ms. Haley if  the commission                                                                    
would   be  suggesting   that  the   legislature  take   any                                                                    
legislative  action  through  either additional  funding  or                                                                    
statutory changes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:45:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY offered  her understanding  that the  budget that                                                                    
was submitted to  the legislature through the  Office of the                                                                    
Governor  is  designed  to maintain  the  current  level  of                                                                    
services and, at  this point, there are no  plans to request                                                                    
that any legislation be introduced.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:47:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HALEY, in  response to  a question  from Chair  Seaton,                                                                    
said that it is very  rare that investigations would require                                                                    
the use of subpoenas.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the next order  of business was                                                                    
the overview  from the Department of  Administration, Public                                                                    
Defenders Office.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:48:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  BRINK, Director,  Central  Office, Public  Defender                                                                    
Agency  (PDA), Department  of  Administration (DOA),  stated                                                                    
that  the agency's  mission is  to provide  constitutionally                                                                    
mandated  legal representation  to  indigent Alaskans,  when                                                                    
appointed  by  the court.    Ms.  Brink  also gave  a  brief                                                                    
history of the  Public Defender Agency.  She  noted that the                                                                    
PDA  was formed  by the  Alaska State  Legislature in  1969.                                                                    
Originally  located  in  the Office  of  the  Governor,  the                                                                    
agency now  resides in DOA.   Ms. Brink said the  reason for                                                                    
the  creation  of   the  agency  was  due   to  the  federal                                                                    
constitutional right of people  to be represented by council                                                                    
in a  federal case.   She noted  that, during the  Gideon v.                                                                  
Wainwright  case in  1963, the  United States  Supreme Court                                                                  
ruled that  the states  also have  an obligation  to provide                                                                    
council when they charge people with state crimes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK reviewed  "practicalities," including  what areas                                                                    
the  PDA   covers,  with  its   major  offices   in  Juneau,                                                                    
Ketchikan,   Sitka,  Barrow,   Kotzebue,  Nome,   Anchorage,                                                                    
Dillingham,  Kenai, Kodiak,  Palmer, Bethel,  and Fairbanks,                                                                    
and with 45  magistrate courts.  She noted that  in the last                                                                    
fiscal year,  the agency  was appointed  to over  21,000 new                                                                    
cases, in addition  to its current cases.   Presently, there                                                                    
are 73 attorneys, 13 investigators,  and 33 support staff to                                                                    
cover the entire state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease at 8:51 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  called the  meeting back  to order  at 8:52:46                                                                  
AM.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:53:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK clarified that the  PDA doesn't choose which cases                                                                    
it accepts, but is appointed cases  by the court.  She noted                                                                    
that  80 percent  of criminal  cases in  Alaska have  public                                                                    
defense  council,  either through  the  PDA  or through  the                                                                    
Office of  Public Advocacy (OPA),  which is  consistent with                                                                    
the  rest of  the nation.   In  a highly  transient area  or                                                                    
where the economy  has been hard hit,  the percentages often                                                                    
exceed 80  percent.   Ms. Brink  stated that  if there  is a                                                                    
legal  conflict that  prevents the  PDA from  representing a                                                                    
client, then it  would withdraw and assign the  case to OPA.                                                                    
She added, "Now,  this isn't a free lawyer  for our clients;                                                                    
there is a recoupment and  repayment provision in the Alaska                                                                    
statutes,  and it  kind  of  depends on  at  what stage  you                                                                    
settle  your case  - if  you settle  - or  ... what  type of                                                                    
crime you  are accused of."   She noted that if  a person is                                                                    
acquitted,  there  is no  requirement  that  he/she pay  for                                                                    
council; however,  if a person  is convicted, he/she  has to                                                                    
reimburse the state for the cost  of the council.  She noted                                                                    
that that money  doesn't come to the PDA, but  goes into the                                                                    
general fund.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:56:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Chair  Seaton,                                                                    
offered an example of a  conflict.  She explained that every                                                                    
client is owed  a duty of loyalty by his/her  attorney.  She                                                                    
noted that the PDA can't  take both the person who's accused                                                                    
and the accuser as its clients.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:57:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK  listed the cases  the PDA covers:   misdemeanors,                                                                    
for which  a person can be  sentenced up to a  year in jail,                                                                    
and felonies, for  which a person can be sentenced  up to 99                                                                    
years -  both of which are  prosecuted by the Office  of the                                                                    
District Attorney in  the Department of Law;  cases in which                                                                    
children  are accused  of delinquent  behavior  - which  are                                                                    
prosecuted by  the Department of  Health &  Social Service's                                                                    
Division of  Juvenile Justice; cases  in which  parents have                                                                    
been  accused  by the  state  of  neglect  or abuse  in  the                                                                    
raising of  their children -  done through what is  called a                                                                    
child in  need of aid  (CINA) proceeding, by  the Department                                                                    
of Law's Office of the  Attorney General, in the Division of                                                                    
Human   Services;   and   cases   involving   mentally   ill                                                                    
individuals  involuntarily committed  by the  state -  which                                                                    
are prosecuted  by the Civil  Division of the Office  of the                                                                    
Attorney General, in the Human Services Section.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:58:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK said the PDA  also represents probation and parole                                                                    
clients.   If a parole  officer doesn't think that  a person                                                                    
is  following  his/her  parole, that  officer  will  file  a                                                                    
petition to  revoke the parole,  and the PDA will  appear in                                                                    
front  of the  Alaska  Board of  Parole  and represent  that                                                                    
client.  She said, "We  represent these people from the very                                                                    
beginnings of their case, all  the way through the very end,                                                                    
and  even  through  appeal,  so  sometimes  cases  can  last                                                                    
years."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:01:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response  to  questions from  Representative                                                                    
Gatto, explained  that because the  PDA must take  all cases                                                                    
that  come  in,  if  the staffing  were  to  be  drastically                                                                    
reduced, the case  loads would just pile up  and many people                                                                    
would be  inconvenienced.   Furthermore, since  every person                                                                    
is  entitled to  the same  level of  defense, it  is not  an                                                                    
option to try to lessen the  workload by doing less work for                                                                    
each client.   She displayed  a chart to the  committee that                                                                    
showed  that in  FY  88, the  PDA represented  approximately                                                                    
12,500 new  clients, while last year  the agency represented                                                                    
over 21,000 new clients.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:03:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK  directed  attention  to a  pie  chart  that  was                                                                    
displayed for the  committee to view, which  showed what the                                                                    
PDA's  caseload looks  like:   57 percent  of the  cases are                                                                    
misdemeanors,  28  percent  are   felonies,  1  percent  are                                                                    
appeals, and  11 percent are family-related.   The workload,                                                                    
she   explained,  is   distributed  a   little  differently.                                                                    
Regarding resources:  30 percent  are spent on misdemeanors,                                                                    
33 percent are  spent on felonies, and 23  percent are spent                                                                    
on  CINA  cases.   The  more  serious the  consequence,  she                                                                    
explained, the more work and effort it takes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:05:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg, reported  that the  PDA has  had to  perform very                                                                    
few appeals that are non-meritorious  and she is not certain                                                                    
that the agency has ever filed  an Anders brief.  She stated                                                                    
that  less than  10  percent  of the  agency's  cases go  to                                                                    
trial.   Ninety percent of  the cases are  either dismissed,                                                                    
negotiated,  settled, or  reduced.   She  said  it's a  rare                                                                    
trial where there is nothing  to appeal.  However, often the                                                                    
appeals are withdrawn.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:08:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Lynn, explained what an Anders brief is.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:10:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  WILSON,  Deputy   Director,  Central  Office,  Public                                                                    
Defender  Agency  (PDA),  Department of  Administration,  in                                                                    
response  to   a  question  from   Representative  Gruenberg                                                                    
regarding CINA cases,  said a person is  entitled to council                                                                    
to pursue an  appeal from a termination  of parental rights.                                                                    
In  response to  a  follow-up  question from  Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg, she  said, "We have  never filed  any Anders-type                                                                    
brief in a termination preceding."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:11:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK  turned to the  next chart regarding  the workload                                                                    
exploding from 5,000  in 1960 to over 68,000 in  2003 in the                                                                    
Matanuska-Susitna (Mat-Su) Valley.  She  also offered a list                                                                    
of the PDA's accomplishments  and the technological advances                                                                    
that have been made.  She  noted that all of the lawyers she                                                                    
gets out of law school  now are technologically skilled, and                                                                    
she gave  examples of technology  being incorporated  by the                                                                    
PDA to handle the increasing caseload.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:15:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK listed  some wellness courts and  talked about the                                                                    
labor intensiveness of  such cases.  She said  the payoff is                                                                    
that  those are  the clients  who are  having success.   She                                                                    
noted  that  anything  done  in one  part  of  the  criminal                                                                    
justice system affects all other  areas of that system.  She                                                                    
offered examples.  She revealed  that the Joint Committee on                                                                    
Legislative Budget and  Audit performed an audit  of the PDA                                                                    
in 1988 and found that the  agency had a 47 percent increase                                                                    
in  its caseload  with less  than  a 6  percent increase  in                                                                    
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:19:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK  said the agency's  latest effort, which  she said                                                                    
she predicts  will be successful, is  measuring case results                                                                    
for criminal  clients by attempting  to reduce days  in jail                                                                    
for  both pre-trial  and convicted  clients when  it is  not                                                                    
necessary  for   public  safety.    For   criminal  offenses                                                                    
revolving  around alcohol  abuse  or  addiction, the  agency                                                                    
needs  to deal  with the  addiction.   She  stated that  the                                                                    
agency also wants to reduce  the number of children in state                                                                    
custody and return them home without reducing their safety.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:21:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG mentioned  a [United States Supreme                                                                    
Court]  case  called Blakely  v.  Washington  and asked  Ms.                                                                  
Brink to address it.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:21:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg, reminded the committee  that the State of Alaska,                                                                    
like the  State of  Washington, has  presumptive sentencing.                                                                    
That  means  that,  based  on   the  type  of  offense,  [an                                                                    
attorney] can tell a client  exactly what kind of a sentence                                                                    
he/she  will  be  facing.     In  order  to  "go  above  the                                                                    
presumptive," there  have to be certain  aggravating factors                                                                    
that  make  the  particular  case  worse  than  the  general                                                                    
offense.    Both  Alaska and  Washington  had  their  judges                                                                    
decide whether  those aggravating factors existed,  and they                                                                    
only had to  be proven by the state by  clear and convincing                                                                    
evidence.  The  United States Supreme Court  ruled that that                                                                    
is  a fact-finding  process that  needs greater  reliability                                                                    
and  has to  be  done  by the  jury;  therefore, Alaska  and                                                                    
Washington's scheme  was ruled  as unconstitutional  and has                                                                    
to be changed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK said  there will  be legislation  introduced this                                                                    
year  that  will  address this  issue.    Additionally,  all                                                                    
previous cases  found to have aggravating  factors are being                                                                    
questioned.  She  estimated that there are in  excess of 300                                                                    
of those  cases currently.   In response to a  question from                                                                    
Chair  Seaton, she  said she  thinks  there may  be more  of                                                                    
those cases, because  some people may be waiting  to see how                                                                    
those initial cases turn out.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:24:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK,  in response to  a follow-up question  from Chair                                                                    
Seaton, reported that some judges  actually believe that the                                                                    
entire  sentencing  scheme  is  unconstitutional  and  every                                                                    
sentence  that  was issued  shouldn't  stand  anymore.   She                                                                    
said, "There are many different  opinions about what Blakely                                                                    
means  and   what  Blakely  says,  and   lots  of  different                                                                    
solutions."   In response to a  question from Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg,  she confirmed  that  Judge  Wolverton has  "held                                                                    
that way" in Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:25:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  asked if  [the  PDA]  is under  any                                                                    
obligation  to notify  anyone who  has been  sentenced under                                                                    
the    conditions    [that    have    since    been    ruled                                                                    
unconstitutional].                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:25:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRINK indicated that she  thinks the agency does need to                                                                    
deal  with   that  issue;  however,  it   doesn't  have  the                                                                    
resources to go back through old files.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:28:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK,  in  response to  comments  from  Representative                                                                    
Ramras, said her dream is  that some day the public defender                                                                    
will not  be deliberately  underfunded.   If the  problem is                                                                    
not addressed,  lawyers will  not be able  to spend  as much                                                                    
time with clients, which could  result in verdicts which are                                                                    
not reliable.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Chair  Seaton,                                                                    
revealed that the Joint Committee  on Legislative Budget and                                                                    
Audit's  report estimated  that there  is a  shortage of  41                                                                    
attorneys.   She  said the  national caseload  standard says                                                                    
that  no  lawyer  should  represent  more  than  150  felony                                                                    
clients per year  and 400 misdemeanor clients  per year, and                                                                    
no lawyer  should do more  than 25 appellate briefs  a year.                                                                    
Ms. Brink said,  "We exceed all of those  numbers."  Another                                                                    
area she  highlighted as  deficient is  support staff.   She                                                                    
offered examples.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:32:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Lynn,  said  the  level  of   experience  between  a  public                                                                    
defender  and  a  prosecutor varies  widely.    She  offered                                                                    
examples.    In  response  to   a  follow-up  question  from                                                                    
Representative Lynn,  she said, "We  deal with a  variety of                                                                    
prosecutors, not just the [district attorney's] office."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:35:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  noted that  if the  public defenders                                                                    
had  all the  staff  that they  needed,  the social  workers                                                                    
would need  commensurate funding,  because delays  have been                                                                    
caused  by  social  workers  who   couldn't  get  to  [court                                                                    
hearings] because they are even more heavily booked.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:36:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Gatto,  said every  year  up  to 16  interns  work for  free                                                                    
during the  summer.  She  noted that during the  school year                                                                    
the  agency  has had  partnerships  with  the University  of                                                                    
Alaska.   She said  the agency has  also implemented  use of                                                                    
Jesuit volunteers,  particularly in the  state's therapeutic                                                                    
courts.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION, OFFICE OF PUBLIC ADVOCACY                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the last order  of business was                                                                    
the overview  from the Department of  Administration, Office                                                                    
of Public Advocacy.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:38:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOSHUA FINK,  Public Advocate,  Anchorage Office,  Office of                                                                    
Public Advocacy (OPA),  Department of Administration, listed                                                                    
the three core functions of  OPA:  advocating for abused and                                                                    
neglected  children in  CINA cases,  by providing  staff and                                                                    
contract   guardian  ad   litems;  providing   guardian  and                                                                    
conservator  services  to  Alaskans  mentally  incapable  of                                                                    
managing   their    own   affairs;   and    doing   conflict                                                                    
representation  for  the  public   defenders.    He  offered                                                                    
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FINK emphasized  that  OPA is  an  appointment of  last                                                                    
resort; the  statute requires that  the court first  look to                                                                    
spouses,  family members,  and  private  organizations.   He                                                                    
noted that OPA is  guardian or conservator for approximately                                                                    
900  adults.     He   revealed  that   20  percent   of  the                                                                    
guardianships or  "conservatorships" created by  the probate                                                                    
court in Alaska  are assigned to OPA.   The average caseload                                                                    
for an OPA guardian is  approximately 65 cases; the national                                                                    
standard is  45.  There  are 14 public  guardians statewide.                                                                    
Mr.  Fink said  OPA is  required  by statute  to review  its                                                                    
cases every  six months to see  what cases might be  able to                                                                    
be  transferred to  a  private entity  or  a family  member;                                                                    
however,  he added  that OPA  doesn't have  the staff  to do                                                                    
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:45:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK stated that the  public guardian division of OPA is                                                                    
mandated to provide information  and referrals to the public                                                                    
regarding  guardianship and  conservators, to  assist family                                                                    
members dealing with issues, such  as having a family member                                                                    
with  dementia.   He noted  that  OPA is  also obligated  by                                                                    
statute  to provide  representation to  the subjects  of the                                                                    
petitions for guardianships  - "respondent representation" -                                                                    
and  visitor services.    He  said, "We  can't  both be  the                                                                    
individual's attorney  and then, potentially,  his guardian;                                                                    
that would  be a  conflict.   So, in those  cases we  hire a                                                                    
private attorney;  we contract  that out."   Mr.  Fink noted                                                                    
that  court visitors  are also  appointed in  every case  to                                                                    
gather information and provide  an independent report on the                                                                    
need for the guardianship  and recommendations.  Since there                                                                    
is no  staff to do  that, OPA contracts  that responsibility                                                                    
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:47:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FINK  said  OPA  has   many  functions  and  some  seem                                                                    
conflicting.  Over  60 percent of its  budget is contracted.                                                                    
He  listed  offices  around  the  state  and  how  they  are                                                                    
staffed, and he  mentioned places in the state  that he will                                                                    
be studying.  The biggest  operation is Anchorage.  Mr. Fink                                                                    
described  his staff,  which he  emphasized has  very little                                                                    
support staff  and nobody to do  the filing.  He  said he is                                                                    
actively  looking  at where  he  can  find efficiencies  and                                                                    
bring  in new  attorneys.   By  setting up  OPA as  separate                                                                    
sections and law firms, Mr.  Fink explained that he has been                                                                    
able to  keep many more cases  in house where they  are less                                                                    
expensive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:52:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FINK said  he and  Ms. Brink  work well  together.   He                                                                    
talked  about preauthorization  and  audited fees.   In  the                                                                    
past, he  explained, fee  collection was  inconsistent; some                                                                    
public  guardians didn't  think  fees  should be  collected.                                                                    
Legislation  was passed  last year  to regulate  this.   Mr.                                                                    
Fink reported  that the collections  have risen  since then,                                                                    
but he  emphasized that no  one who  can't afford to  pay is                                                                    
made to do so.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:55:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK  said a  law past last  year to  regulate guardians                                                                    
and conservators,  which will increase the  public's and the                                                                    
court's  trust.   He said  OPA  is hoping  to encourage  the                                                                    
formation  of  some  private organizations  to  provide  the                                                                    
guardianship  work and,  thus,  lessen OPA's  workload.   In                                                                    
response to a question from  Chair Seaton, he clarified that                                                                    
although the law has been  passed, the regulations are still                                                                    
in progress.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:56:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK  talked about  case management and  the need  for a                                                                    
new case  management system, which  he said will  enable him                                                                    
to  more  accurately  know  what cases  he  has  and  "where                                                                    
they're  at," so  that  he can  monitor  workloads and  more                                                                    
fairly  distribute  the   work.    It  will   also  help  in                                                                    
determining costs for case types.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:58:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRINK, in  response to  a question  from Representative                                                                    
Ramras, said the  pay range for attorneys  and support staff                                                                    
varies  greatly depending  on the  cost-of-living allowances                                                                    
in different offices.   For example, a  starting attorney in                                                                    
Anchorage will  make $50,000 a  year.  The same  attorney in                                                                    
Barrow  or Kotzebue  will make  $68,000 a  year.   Ms. Brink                                                                    
said that is  an Attorney II level and the  highest range is                                                                    
an Attorney  IV, which is  reached within a couple  years of                                                                    
the attorney's  career.  An  Attorney IV in  Anchorage makes                                                                    
approximately $65,000.  Support  staff are at between ranges                                                                    
14 to 16.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:59:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FINK proffered  that most  of his  support staff  makes                                                                    
between $9 and $14 an hour.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:00:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK, in response to  a question from Chair Seaton, said                                                                    
his staff grew 34 percent  last year with about 16 positions                                                                    
added.   He said there  is a  definite savings where  he has                                                                    
hired employees rather than contractors.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:00:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  emphasized that it  will be important  for Mr.                                                                    
Fink to let the legislature  know when employees added equal                                                                    
a cost savings.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  business before the  committee, the                                                                    
House   State  Affairs   Standing   Committee  meeting   was                                                                    
adjourned at 10:01:15 AM.                                                                                                     

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